9 million visitors can’t be wrong?

Posted Tuesday, May 23rd, 2006 12:04 am by Mon Solo
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This is what happens when a non-techie begins talking about tech stuff…

And what worries me is how politicians can use tech information, or misinformation as how Raul Lambino utilizes it, as propaganda.

Sigaw ng Bayan claims that their website has received 9 million hits in 3 weeks and, in the same breath, promptly claims that “Nine million represents almost 20 percent of the total number of registered voters.” (Source: Belinda Cunanan’s column).

Yuga and the rest of the blogsphere immediately responded, giving Sigaw ng Bayan a crash course in web analytics. And in case Sigaw ng Bayan spokesperson Raul Lambino doesn’t believe them, he can check out Wikipedia. All in all (and any techie worth his salt knows this), hits don’t equal to page visits. And page visits don’t necessarily equal unique visitors.

But Lambino still had to stir the hornet’s nest, posting a reply that would make any techie cringe. Jepoy dissects Lambino’s explanation, summarily describing the experience as “like a CISCO certified individual listening to a 1st year Nursing student trying to explain the very basics of the router.”

To be fair, some parts of Sigaw ng Bayan’s claims may be accurate, especially his claim that “daily access log reports amount to an average of 80 megabytes,” that it takes “20 minutes for a special software to analyze the daily logs,” that “visitor bandwidth usage averages 2 gigabytes daily for only around 200 pages.” But all those stats mean is that the website is heavily visited, and the jury is still out on whether or not these visits translate to actual unique eyeballs.

From that point everything goes downhill.

The www.sigawngbayan.com uses a static sitemeter simply because it relies on the access logs automatically rolled daily by its webhost providers. It does not employ free sitemeters that abound in the electronic world like those naysayers in the country who refuse to see anything good around them. Most free sitemeters come expensive actually as their providers flood administrators’ emailboxes with spam – unwanted emails – which come from third parties the freegivers share the user’s address to. This “gateway” can be used by better-educated techies to enter into the bowels of a site, play around for sometime and leave the administrators with severe headaches. In short, we hold our site’s security very seriously and that credibility of statistics is the better judgment call for us rather than rapidity of reports, the latter serving only to satisfy the amusement of nosey know-it-alls.

Excuse me? I have tried Sitemeter and Performancing and I have not received any perceivable increase in spam. Besides, my email client (Thunderbird) does the job well of filtering out spam. Jepoy also mentioned that if he is so afraid of spam, why doesn’t he use a free email account instead.

Also, while the site owner may be afraid of placing javascript code (did he just call this a
“gateway?”) for the web counter, he does not exhibit the same fear when placing a javascript for the Google Ad.

We do not also use our webhost’s counters menu as they tend to display dissimilar hits reports as a site can be viewed either as www.sigawngbayan.com or simply sigawngbayan.com. Chances are, one URL or web address will be visited more than the other variant. We can only imagine how this seeming discrepancy would again be used to pummel our down-to-earth intent of promoting the People’s Initiative. We will not belabor the fact that the aesthetics of the pre-programmed counters of our webhost do not conform with our website layout using advance software.

Good excuse. But when I last checked, the site mentioned that there have been 898,000 visits since April 2006. So which is it, 9 million or 898,000? And, as Jepoy did mention, since when did CSS and HTML constitute advanced software?

Sigaw ng Bayan is full of propaganda-speak, describing the more technical knowledgeable detractors as elitists and praising the “lowly people, the poor, those who suffer away silently due to the state of affairs of this country, [who] would like to visit a site like www.sigawngbayan.com.” Yuga reacts: “Mr. Lambino must also be reminded that 99% of his so-called grassroots visitors don’t even have computers, much less internet in their own homes. They’d rather use their hard-earned Php25 for a kilo of rice than an hour’s rent in a net cafe.”

Even if the unlikely and improbable did happen and 9 million people did visit the site, it does not mean that all of them subscribe to Sigaw ng Bayan’s stance. Sigaw ng Bayan offers no venue for its readers to comment or to provide any form of feedback. To date, there are 13 links to the website (based on Technorati), a number of which don’t exactly see eye-to-eye with Lambino.

And while we are in the subject of rankings, Jepoy reported that Sigaw ng Bayan website’s Google Page Rank is zero. I checked Alexa and it is ranked 1,439,359. As a point of comparison, Inquirer is ranked 2,182. Pinoytechblog is 126,576. My own blog (Technopinoy), which doesn’t have much readers, is 322,414. Notice that I did not make any link to Sigaw ng Bayan, lest I add to its already dubious credibility.


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59 Responses to “9 million visitors can’t be wrong? ”

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  1. Manuel L. Quezon III: The Daily Dose » Blog Archive » Fudging the numbers » May 31st, 2006 17:15

    [...] More action in the fudging numbers department: there’s been a heated debate in Pinoy Tech Blog (via Captain’s Log) on the fabled 9 million hits-visitors-pixels claim. [...]

  2. Captain's Log » May 30th, 2006 01:10

    So I Came From a Fabled University?…

    I don’t usually flame someone on the internet, especially respectable people online. I normally let n00bs pass, not unless if that person is so bluntly stupid. Respect is earned right? But this time, this certain IT consultant lost my respect after B….

  3. Techno Pinoy » Archives » What makes an expert an expert? » May 29th, 2006 16:42

    [...] In Pinoytechblog, an article I wrote has caused some sort of debate because I quoted a statement that Jepoy made, comparing Sigaw ng Bayan’s web statistics explanation to “a CISCO certified individual listening to a 1st year Nursing student trying to explain the very basics of a router.” Actually, this was not the original phrase.  The original phrase was “like a CISCO certified individual listening to a 1st year Nursing student trying to explain the internet” and certain individuals found insult in the phrase.  Now what is so insulting about this phrase?  Is knowing the internet a measurement of one’s intelligence?  Are we saying that a person is ignorant because he or she doesn’t understand the internet?  If that is the case, then call me stupid because even I can’t confidently explain its inner workings.   Sure I know how to dial-up into an ISP, how to launch a browser, or how to email.  I know how to setup a home network, but I will be stumped to explain the difference between a router, a hub, a switch, and a bridge.  I won’t be able to explain the differences between TCP/IP and other networking protocols or why internal IP addresses start at 192 or how the internet keeps track of MAC addresses and so forth.  One blogger (bloggermentarist) asked me “why the comparison with the nurses..? why not 1st year IT students..? can they explain it better than the 1st year nurse students..?”  My answer, which doesn’t jive with his, is: most probably a 1st year IT student can explain better than a 1st year nurse student. It is not because the nursing student is stupid, just that it is not in his or her field of expertise.  [...]

  4. Pinoy Tech Blog Admin » May 29th, 2006 11:53

    I believe the discussion here has veered away from the original topic so I am turning off the comments.

  5. Siopao Master » May 28th, 2006 19:55

    OMG they are multpilying! One weirdo is enough please. Read carefully the posts before taking sides, just my advice

  6. richard@work - etc edition » classic example of a fragment of pinoy society’s sickness » May 28th, 2006 17:11

    [...] I have been monitoring PinoyTechBlog (9 million visitors can’t be wrong?) lately. The comment posts are becoming quite dirty. The frackers Jegoy, Siomai Master and Karlopongit are pooling resources and intimidation power to gang up on one person, blogger bloggementarist (aka wrencelot). The latter earlier complained that about Jegoy’s unsavory remarks about CCNA profesionals versus nursing freshmen. Points were made, apologies flew and some blog edits were commited. But… but…. but…. the bashing never stops. Just watch the circus and be amazed. I sided earlier with the three stooges’ point of view. But later on, they started on a spree of character assanition and foul mouthing. I tried restraining myself in providing my own comment post not because I am afraid of any bashing, but because I don’t want to stoop to such stupidity. Siomai is supposedly an instructor at the fabled university: AMA. What kind of example Siomai is trying to project to his students? Oh well, this is my blog and I’d choose to bash whoever I want… [...]

  7. sniper » May 28th, 2006 13:30

    i use 2 listen wwr but when i heard this 2 guys laughing and making jokes in the radio i never listen in that station again and guess what the tambalan was form in mar. 21 and that day my b-day oh men its nice 2 know it

  8. karlopogi » May 28th, 2006 13:11

    @jepoy - OMG! I cant stand it anymore, his stupidy is much more powerful than I thought! his stupidy skills is way off the chart!!!

  9. Siopao Master » May 28th, 2006 12:04

    bloggementarist answer this also:

    What is the difference between Star Trek and Star Wars?

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