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		<title>By: laurence</title>
		<link>http://www.pinoytechblog.com/archives/apple-mac-os-and-the-future-of-personal-computing/comment-page-1#comment-1870</link>
		<dc:creator>laurence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2005 08:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi can i just ask anything about computer sale?

Please reply me at laureen_20042000@yahoo.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi can i just ask anything about computer sale?</p>
<p>Please reply me at <a href="mailto:laureen_20042000@yahoo.com">laureen_20042000@yahoo.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: bit</title>
		<link>http://www.pinoytechblog.com/archives/apple-mac-os-and-the-future-of-personal-computing/comment-page-1#comment-156</link>
		<dc:creator>bit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2005 21:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t mean to be self-righteous, but I believe that immediately dismissing Windows as a viable OS for the average Juan dela Cruz is a hasty conclusion. I&#039;ve never been known to be a Microsoft supporter, but I&#039;ve never been one to take sides in this particular battle. (Although I&#039;m still crossing my fingers for HaikuOS.)

Microsoft undoubtedly made a very usable OS, and I mean usable in terms of GUI, with no considerations for security. I would contend that it&#039;s practically just as usable as MacOS. Perhaps if you were to show a caveman a PC and   a Mac, he&#039;d probably be more comfortable on a Mac quicker, but the fact is that there are barely any cavemen left in the world, and Microsoft owns most of the PC world (which would also make them the prime target of black hats and the like). In my mind, FOSS OSs have a lot to learn from Microsoft.

I would agree though that currently, with all factors considered, the MacOS is a very strong contender for the title of &quot;Best OS&quot;. It&#039;s usable, it&#039;s secure, and since it&#039;s built on Unix, geek-friendly. It&#039;s only real downside is its price.

It is highly doubtful that we&#039;d ever see the MacOS like we see Windows today. You can buy Windows and install it on any x86 computer; it even comes OEM on many many pre-built computers, but I can guarantee that Steve Jobs will never be willing to lose the kind of control he has over what the Apple user uses now. If he were to release MacOS as a stand-alone OS, he simply wouldn&#039;t have control over what quality of hardware people would put it on. 

If Apple would suddently open the market to Macintosh clones (like it did in the early 90s), Mr. Jobs would likely make computer companies to make sure that their branded computers with pre-installed MacOS was up to snuff with Apple&#039;s standards - which would obviously still make Apple-related products expensive.

As long as Apple is making good money and Steve Jobs is in charge, I wouldn&#039;t count on seeing truly cheap Macs any time soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mean to be self-righteous, but I believe that immediately dismissing Windows as a viable OS for the average Juan dela Cruz is a hasty conclusion. I&#8217;ve never been known to be a Microsoft supporter, but I&#8217;ve never been one to take sides in this particular battle. (Although I&#8217;m still crossing my fingers for HaikuOS.)</p>
<p>Microsoft undoubtedly made a very usable OS, and I mean usable in terms of GUI, with no considerations for security. I would contend that it&#8217;s practically just as usable as MacOS. Perhaps if you were to show a caveman a PC and   a Mac, he&#8217;d probably be more comfortable on a Mac quicker, but the fact is that there are barely any cavemen left in the world, and Microsoft owns most of the PC world (which would also make them the prime target of black hats and the like). In my mind, FOSS OSs have a lot to learn from Microsoft.</p>
<p>I would agree though that currently, with all factors considered, the MacOS is a very strong contender for the title of &#8220;Best OS&#8221;. It&#8217;s usable, it&#8217;s secure, and since it&#8217;s built on Unix, geek-friendly. It&#8217;s only real downside is its price.</p>
<p>It is highly doubtful that we&#8217;d ever see the MacOS like we see Windows today. You can buy Windows and install it on any x86 computer; it even comes OEM on many many pre-built computers, but I can guarantee that Steve Jobs will never be willing to lose the kind of control he has over what the Apple user uses now. If he were to release MacOS as a stand-alone OS, he simply wouldn&#8217;t have control over what quality of hardware people would put it on. </p>
<p>If Apple would suddently open the market to Macintosh clones (like it did in the early 90s), Mr. Jobs would likely make computer companies to make sure that their branded computers with pre-installed MacOS was up to snuff with Apple&#8217;s standards &#8211; which would obviously still make Apple-related products expensive.</p>
<p>As long as Apple is making good money and Steve Jobs is in charge, I wouldn&#8217;t count on seeing truly cheap Macs any time soon.</p>
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		<title>By: joachim guanzon</title>
		<link>http://www.pinoytechblog.com/archives/apple-mac-os-and-the-future-of-personal-computing/comment-page-1#comment-100</link>
		<dc:creator>joachim guanzon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2005 04:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you J Angelo. Microsoft, Apple and other companies don&#039;t make a bulk of money on single sales, they make more money with bulk deals with huge corporations and universities around the world... they make money by selling the software bundle, lisencing, and bulk hardware deals with all of these huge clients that regularly upgrade software and yearly (like my university), or more frequently than that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you J Angelo. Microsoft, Apple and other companies don&#8217;t make a bulk of money on single sales, they make more money with bulk deals with huge corporations and universities around the world&#8230; they make money by selling the software bundle, lisencing, and bulk hardware deals with all of these huge clients that regularly upgrade software and yearly (like my university), or more frequently than that.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Angelo Racoma</title>
		<link>http://www.pinoytechblog.com/archives/apple-mac-os-and-the-future-of-personal-computing/comment-page-1#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Angelo Racoma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2005 01:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Migs,

We see pirated copies of WinXP and other Windows versions all the time.  But that didn&#039;t stop Microsoft from being the multi-billion dollar business it is now.

Let&#039;s say Apple sells their OS as OEM, with branded computers, such as Dell and HP.  They&#039;d probably make a killing out of that.

Yes, Pinoys are not into buying software, much less the OS, if the pirated versions are available for free.  But if the OS is bundled as OEM, and the cost is imputed in the hardware&#039;s SRP, then that would be a good deal if it were Mac OS X instead of Windows you get, ain&#039;t it?

@Fleeb,

Yes, it&#039;s not that simple to switch to another OS.  But that made me think: Windows is, after all, supposed to be more complicated to operate than MacOS, isn&#039;t it?  And while majority of the computing world is still Windows-centric (with the immense popularity Windows gained over the past few decades), we&#039;re now moving towards the internet as the more prevalent computing environment.  And that makes it easier to switch across OSes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Migs,</p>
<p>We see pirated copies of WinXP and other Windows versions all the time.  But that didn&#8217;t stop Microsoft from being the multi-billion dollar business it is now.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say Apple sells their OS as OEM, with branded computers, such as Dell and HP.  They&#8217;d probably make a killing out of that.</p>
<p>Yes, Pinoys are not into buying software, much less the OS, if the pirated versions are available for free.  But if the OS is bundled as OEM, and the cost is imputed in the hardware&#8217;s SRP, then that would be a good deal if it were Mac OS X instead of Windows you get, ain&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>@Fleeb,</p>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s not that simple to switch to another OS.  But that made me think: Windows is, after all, supposed to be more complicated to operate than MacOS, isn&#8217;t it?  And while majority of the computing world is still Windows-centric (with the immense popularity Windows gained over the past few decades), we&#8217;re now moving towards the internet as the more prevalent computing environment.  And that makes it easier to switch across OSes.</p>
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		<title>By: raincontreras</title>
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		<dc:creator>raincontreras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2005 05:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eventually, we might even see something similar to &#039;Apple Genuine Advantage&#039; to come out and curb Mac piracy. Ok, maybe something a lot smarter than that. 

I&#039;m still hoping the Linux side of things will get their stuff going for desktop Windows users to try out their OS, since I don&#039;t think actually paying for legal OS/software is natural to us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eventually, we might even see something similar to &#8216;Apple Genuine Advantage&#8217; to come out and curb Mac piracy. Ok, maybe something a lot smarter than that. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m still hoping the Linux side of things will get their stuff going for desktop Windows users to try out their OS, since I don&#8217;t think actually paying for legal OS/software is natural to us.</p>
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		<title>By: Fleeb</title>
		<link>http://www.pinoytechblog.com/archives/apple-mac-os-and-the-future-of-personal-computing/comment-page-1#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>Fleeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2005 03:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#4

If their software will end up in Green Hills, more and more people would be trying it and later getting a large &#039;user base&#039;. Just like the console wars, companies subsidized their consoles during launch to get a large user base, but during that time, well of course they  get negative gains.

The average Juan do not want to switch OS that simple you know, they were even trying to look for &quot;Drive C&quot; in Linux. That&#039;s another factor to consider, transition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#4</p>
<p>If their software will end up in Green Hills, more and more people would be trying it and later getting a large &#8216;user base&#8217;. Just like the console wars, companies subsidized their consoles during launch to get a large user base, but during that time, well of course they  get negative gains.</p>
<p>The average Juan do not want to switch OS that simple you know, they were even trying to look for &#8220;Drive C&#8221; in Linux. That&#8217;s another factor to consider, transition.</p>
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		<title>By: Angelo Pañares</title>
		<link>http://www.pinoytechblog.com/archives/apple-mac-os-and-the-future-of-personal-computing/comment-page-1#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>Angelo Pañares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2005 03:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope with the processor change, the price drops a bit :) Mac is really great and I planning not to upgrade my PC but buy a mac mini instead. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope with the processor change, the price drops a bit <img src='http://www.pinoytechblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Mac is really great and I planning not to upgrade my PC but buy a mac mini instead. <img src='http://www.pinoytechblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mparaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>mparaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2005 01:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Apple sells OS X unbundled, it&#039;ll just end up in &quot;Greenhills.&quot; How would Apple earn if people don&#039;t buy their hardware?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Apple sells OS X unbundled, it&#8217;ll just end up in &#8220;Greenhills.&#8221; How would Apple earn if people don&#8217;t buy their hardware?</p>
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		<title>By: J. Angelo Racoma</title>
		<link>http://www.pinoytechblog.com/archives/apple-mac-os-and-the-future-of-personal-computing/comment-page-1#comment-56</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Angelo Racoma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2005 21:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, congrats for being able to try out Vista.  Too bad it no longer has much of the highly acclaimed features publicized when it was still called &quot;longhorn&quot;.  WinFS, anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, congrats for being able to try out Vista.  Too bad it no longer has much of the highly acclaimed features publicized when it was still called &#8220;longhorn&#8221;.  WinFS, anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: J. Angelo Racoma</title>
		<link>http://www.pinoytechblog.com/archives/apple-mac-os-and-the-future-of-personal-computing/comment-page-1#comment-54</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Angelo Racoma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2005 21:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Apple did not want to go into the &quot;Megahertz wars&quot; before, since the PowerPC architecture was indeed superior to the intel Pentiums with higher MHz ratings.  They get better performance at lower clock speeds (because of a very large cache and a very efficient way of processing the flow of data.


However, I think the recent shift towards dual-core Intel processors, and the low-power and cool Pentium Ms is one of the advantages Apple will get on the technical side.

That&#039;s right--better wait.  You can expect thinner powerbooks with longer battery life.  And they will be a lot cooler on the lap, too.  Or at the very least, you can wait for the Intel-based units to come out; PowerPC-based machines will likely have a price-drop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Apple did not want to go into the &#8220;Megahertz wars&#8221; before, since the PowerPC architecture was indeed superior to the intel Pentiums with higher MHz ratings.  They get better performance at lower clock speeds (because of a very large cache and a very efficient way of processing the flow of data.</p>
<p>However, I think the recent shift towards dual-core Intel processors, and the low-power and cool Pentium Ms is one of the advantages Apple will get on the technical side.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s right&#8211;better wait.  You can expect thinner powerbooks with longer battery life.  And they will be a lot cooler on the lap, too.  Or at the very least, you can wait for the Intel-based units to come out; PowerPC-based machines will likely have a price-drop.</p>
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