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		<title>By: Nick Matyas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Matyas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very good posting. i liked it. keep going. :)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very good posting. i liked it. keep going. <img src='http://www.pinoytechblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: gormSnorb</title>
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		<dc:creator>gormSnorb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 13:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, </p>
<p>I requirement to buy Dedicated Server with harsh DDoS charge in Europe. </p>
<p>Anybody distinguish is there any principled dedicated servers with ddos protection against HTTP and SYN inundation attacks? </p>
<p>Our server has been loaded attacked, and i am looking for strong ddos protected hosting in Europe. </p>
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		<title>By: Bofirrina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bofirrina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 18:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: secret</title>
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		<dc:creator>secret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 06:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi to amor soriano,girlie campos,cecil morales,cristy,jonah,dwizzile,jed,ate vergie,ces2,kat1,kat2,katz,jm,dee,kitz,mimi,emz......
guys wag kayo paapekto sa mga balita madami callcenter sa pias if hindi na kayo pinapasahod  saka lang kayo umalis eh sumasahod nman tayo ng maayos keber!....................magsara sila kung gusto nla basta wre doing our part.....god bless</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi to amor soriano,girlie campos,cecil morales,cristy,jonah,dwizzile,jed,ate vergie,ces2,kat1,kat2,katz,jm,dee,kitz,mimi,emz&#8230;&#8230;<br />
guys wag kayo paapekto sa mga balita madami callcenter sa pias if hindi na kayo pinapasahod  saka lang kayo umalis eh sumasahod nman tayo ng maayos keber!&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..magsara sila kung gusto nla basta wre doing our part&#8230;..god bless</p>
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		<title>By: gie</title>
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		<dc:creator>gie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 06:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pinoy is always like that nadapa ka na hindi ka pa tulungang makatayo lalo ka pang aapakan at pagtatawanan bket ganya kayo nagwork kayo sa company bad kayo...............i love u ms hazel! mamu shiela! they&#039;re my best trainers ever!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pinoy is always like that nadapa ka na hindi ka pa tulungang makatayo lalo ka pang aapakan at pagtatawanan bket ganya kayo nagwork kayo sa company bad kayo&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;i love u ms hazel! mamu shiela! they&#8217;re my best trainers ever!</p>
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		<title>By: Protect your data through Truecrypt -- Pinoy Tech Blog - The Philippines&#8217; Premier Technology Blog</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jun 2006 13:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For many companies, there is a big risk if data is placed unencrypted in portable media. These companies have both a legal and ethical responsibility to protect their customers and employees data. Unauthorized disclosure of such data will almost definitely bring negative press and reactions to the company&#8212;take a look at what happened to Epixtar when their personnel information leaked. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Monsolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monsolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2006 04:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keyser,

Well nothing really wrong about putting in writing, but it would have been handled better if there was a talk first---either through a phone call or a face-to-face meeting.  In every dealing or negotitation, the proper thing is you first start off with a talk.  Writing a letter is a form of escalation.  And if you write something, chances are it can be made public.  Now that a letter has been written, if one party decides to have a talk, then it gives a signal that that party is on the defensive.  It&#039;s just one of those few subtle things that mean a lot.

Anyway, back to the meat of the discussion, there is a difference between what is meant by being responsible, being ethical, and being legal.  Take abortion in the U.S.---while we may say that it is unethical, it is still considered legal in the U.S.  On the flip side, some of us may say that euthanasia is ethical if the patient is in horrendous pain, but it is still illegal. 

So case in point, all the examples you mentioned are clearly illegal activities.  But is publishing confidential information illegal?  If the person signed a non-disclosure agreement, then the answer is yes.  But is allowing a comment to remain in the blogsphere considered illegal? I don&#039;t think so.  Even PTB&#039;s laywers say that.

PTB is not legally bound to retract the comment; but, in my opinion, it may just be the responsible thing to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keyser,</p>
<p>Well nothing really wrong about putting in writing, but it would have been handled better if there was a talk first&#8212;either through a phone call or a face-to-face meeting.  In every dealing or negotitation, the proper thing is you first start off with a talk.  Writing a letter is a form of escalation.  And if you write something, chances are it can be made public.  Now that a letter has been written, if one party decides to have a talk, then it gives a signal that that party is on the defensive.  It&#8217;s just one of those few subtle things that mean a lot.</p>
<p>Anyway, back to the meat of the discussion, there is a difference between what is meant by being responsible, being ethical, and being legal.  Take abortion in the U.S.&#8212;while we may say that it is unethical, it is still considered legal in the U.S.  On the flip side, some of us may say that euthanasia is ethical if the patient is in horrendous pain, but it is still illegal. </p>
<p>So case in point, all the examples you mentioned are clearly illegal activities.  But is publishing confidential information illegal?  If the person signed a non-disclosure agreement, then the answer is yes.  But is allowing a comment to remain in the blogsphere considered illegal? I don&#8217;t think so.  Even PTB&#8217;s laywers say that.</p>
<p>PTB is not legally bound to retract the comment; but, in my opinion, it may just be the responsible thing to do.</p>
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		<title>By: yuga</title>
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		<dc:creator>yuga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 15:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray,

We do get a lot of those here everyday. Thanks for taking your time and leaving a comment. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray,</p>
<p>We do get a lot of those here everyday. Thanks for taking your time and leaving a comment. <img src='http://www.pinoytechblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ray Meyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 12:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re keeping it here for ADCENTS. PTB is a SELLOUT!

I wonder how Abe Olandres and this &#039;nary rank-and-file CSR Mike Abundo would feel if a dossier on them is being circulated via email.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re keeping it here for ADCENTS. PTB is a SELLOUT!</p>
<p>I wonder how Abe Olandres and this &#8216;nary rank-and-file CSR Mike Abundo would feel if a dossier on them is being circulated via email.</p>
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		<title>By: Keyser Soze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keyser Soze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 09:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mon,

You know what the messenger should have done if he had his wits about him? He should have immediately handed the check back to HR and told them that he shouldn&#039;t be privy to such information. But he didn&#039;t, because he is a simple messenger who quite possibly, barely finished gradeschool.
 
PTB, however, is not a messenger that barely finished gradeschool. PTB has the strength of 15 intelligent individuals behind it, one of whom is no less a lawyer. Therefore, using my example, and following your lead, if the messenger was PTB, then it is disappointing to find out, given the exposed check situation, that no alarm bells sounded in their collective heads. I bet the messenger in my friend&#039;s story has been advised to refrain from talking about the salary amount he saw, in the same way that I HIGHLY recommend that PTB take down the comment that is currently in dispute. We should keep in mind, that it is not solely the HR&#039;s (Epixtar) responsibility but also that of the messenger&#039;s (PTB) in safeguarding my friend&#039;s (Epixtar employees) information.

Blind article? I don&#039;t consider something blind if it is being put across as something real with alleged real names and real salaries being exposed to the public. Also, what is wrong about making a request in writing? That is how things are done in the real world. You do not ask somebody out to coffee, hold their hand and ask them to take something down, especially if you are an institution or a business entity. You get things in writing. You document everything.
 
You said so yourself, the responsible thing to do is for PTB to delete the comment. You even agreed that my friend did the right thing. So you understand the value of keeping compensation information confidential but in the same breath, still consider the jury out when it comes to publishing illegally obtained salary information on the web? How can you even reconcile the two?

As for my example, maybe it was too strong for your tastes, so here&#039;s a few more:
1) A blog entry on terrorism with somebody posting a link to building instructions for a pipe bomb.
2) An article on an anonymous child kidnap or rape victim with somebody revealing the subject&#039;s name in the comment section.
3) An entry about the Magdalo escapees with a comment indicating their whereabouts.

In each of the above instances, can a blog owner simply let things be by virtue of these comments not being his and that any attempts to delete them would only be futile?
 
Don&#039;t tell me that spam comments are handled more stringently than inappropriate comments such as these.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mon,</p>
<p>You know what the messenger should have done if he had his wits about him? He should have immediately handed the check back to HR and told them that he shouldn&#8217;t be privy to such information. But he didn&#8217;t, because he is a simple messenger who quite possibly, barely finished gradeschool.</p>
<p>PTB, however, is not a messenger that barely finished gradeschool. PTB has the strength of 15 intelligent individuals behind it, one of whom is no less a lawyer. Therefore, using my example, and following your lead, if the messenger was PTB, then it is disappointing to find out, given the exposed check situation, that no alarm bells sounded in their collective heads. I bet the messenger in my friend&#8217;s story has been advised to refrain from talking about the salary amount he saw, in the same way that I HIGHLY recommend that PTB take down the comment that is currently in dispute. We should keep in mind, that it is not solely the HR&#8217;s (Epixtar) responsibility but also that of the messenger&#8217;s (PTB) in safeguarding my friend&#8217;s (Epixtar employees) information.</p>
<p>Blind article? I don&#8217;t consider something blind if it is being put across as something real with alleged real names and real salaries being exposed to the public. Also, what is wrong about making a request in writing? That is how things are done in the real world. You do not ask somebody out to coffee, hold their hand and ask them to take something down, especially if you are an institution or a business entity. You get things in writing. You document everything.</p>
<p>You said so yourself, the responsible thing to do is for PTB to delete the comment. You even agreed that my friend did the right thing. So you understand the value of keeping compensation information confidential but in the same breath, still consider the jury out when it comes to publishing illegally obtained salary information on the web? How can you even reconcile the two?</p>
<p>As for my example, maybe it was too strong for your tastes, so here&#8217;s a few more:<br />
1) A blog entry on terrorism with somebody posting a link to building instructions for a pipe bomb.<br />
2) An article on an anonymous child kidnap or rape victim with somebody revealing the subject&#8217;s name in the comment section.<br />
3) An entry about the Magdalo escapees with a comment indicating their whereabouts.</p>
<p>In each of the above instances, can a blog owner simply let things be by virtue of these comments not being his and that any attempts to delete them would only be futile?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t tell me that spam comments are handled more stringently than inappropriate comments such as these.</p>
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